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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 8:34 am    Post subject: Bland Dough Issues... Reply with quote

Tom writes:

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"Hi Albert and ALL pizza fanatics!

Here is a picture of my latest “try”. One is pepperoni & sausage and the other is “Margarita”

For some reason my crust was VERY bland? Any suggestions??

Tom

Oceanside,CA"


Great question, Tom.

The first thing I would ask is, which dough recipe are you using?

Did you remember to put salt in the dough?

Here is a great tip Peter Reinhart gave me:

Make your dough the day before and let it proof in your fridge.

If you want to see a video of me making my pizza dough,
go to this link:

http://pizzatherapy.com/aug07.htm

Go to #2.

Does anyone else here at the forum have any suggestions for Tom?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lack of salt is usually the culprit for flavorless dough.

It looks as though you have good loft and bubbling, but I see not too much brown in the crust color.

Look into your cooking time and temperature. Temp should be 550, the usual oven maximum, and leave it in long enough to brown up the crust. If the surface is cooking sooner than the crust browns, the rack may be too high in the oven.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 3:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Bland Dough Issues... Reply with quote

pizza wrote:
Tom writes:

Quote:
"Hi Albert and ALL pizza fanatics!

Here is a picture of my latest “try”. One is pepperoni & sausage and the other is “Margarita”

For some reason my crust was VERY bland? Any suggestions??

Tom

Oceanside,CA"


Great question, Tom.

The first thing I would ask is, which dough recipe are you using?

Did you remember to put salt in the dough?

Here is a great tip Peter Reinhart gave me:

Make your dough the day before and let it proof in your fridge.

If you want to see a video of me making my pizza dough,
go to this link:

http://pizzatherapy.com/aug07.htm

Go to #2.

Does anyone else here at the forum have any suggestions for Tom?
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The answer about using salt and proofing your dough overnight in the fridge is right on and very important. The slow proofing of dough enhances flavor. You might also try using a starter dough along with yeast to improve flavor. There have been many recipes for making starter dough on this web site. It's a quite simple procedure and the starter dough will last for years if it is fed regularly. I have been using the same dough for a couple of years now. The dough is started by capturing wild yeast from the air into your mixture, and re-fed everytime you use a portion of it. Get the correct procedure from the web by searching for "starter dough" recipes. I hope this will help correctin the "bland dough" taste.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 3:38 pm    Post subject: bland dough Reply with quote

#1 - Use bread flour, not all-purpose flour. I use Robin Hood "Best for Bread Machine" flour. At one time, I purchased 40kg bags of bread flour from a friendly bakery, but in the past few years, the big supermarkets have begun to carry more manageable 5lb bags of bread flour.

#2 - Proofing. 24 hours. When I followed the recipe that came with my bread machine and let the dough rise for only an hour in a warm place, the result was amateurish crust - yeasty, and when browned it had a cookie-like crunch instead of bread-like qualities. By simply changing the final step from "let the dough rise for an hour in a warm place" to "put the dough into a plastic bag and immediately put it in the refrigerator for 24 hours", my pizza crust took a huge leap forward in flavour and texture.

#3 - Overworking. If you over-stretch the dough, the result will be cookie-like. I noticed that you posted a question about stretching and holes. When that used to happen to me, I would roll the dough up into a ball and "start all over again". Bad move! Rolling pins are a bad move, too. Unfortunately, I still can't stretch dough like the pros, so I still use a rolling pin (sparingly) and let the stretched dough relax on the peel for some 5-15 minutes before putting the toppings on. [In fact, I now use a premium children's rolling pin about 4" wide. That lets me stretch the center of the dough while leaving a less-stretched crust.]

#4 - I have developed the opinion that home ovens require a "wetter" dough because their heat is lower than that attained by pro ovens and the cooking time is subsequently longer. I have had better results when my dough comes out "sticky" from the bag in the fridge (and gets dumped straight into a flour bucket). My "wetter" dough recipe appeared in the newsletter a year or two ago - try looking at back issues.

#5 - Dead yeast?
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